The rivalry between India and China is intensifying—and going global. Their latest difference is over the BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) and IBSA (India, Brazil and South Africa) group arrangements.
China reportedly wants the non-military bloc to be known as BRICS (The ‘S’ for South Africa), and also seems to want to amalgamate BRIC with the IBSA Dialogue Forum. With this in mind, it is in the process of organizing a BRICS (BRIC plus IBSA) summit in Hainan in April this year.
But India has seen through China’s game from the start. New Delhi knows the Chinese want IBSA closed down because Beijing has no direct role to play in it. It’s obvious that India, for its part, wants a diplomatic/strategic space for itself, where it doesn’t have to be in the company of its domineering, giant neighbour. In addition, South Africa is crucial for India’s efforts to counter China’s strategic forays into Africa.
When US President Barack Obama visited India last November, one of the key priorities he outlined in terms of greater Indo-US cooperation was the need for the two democracies to closely collaborate on Africa, and India has already declared that Africa will be one of its three ‘major foreign policy targets’ in 2011. Meanwhile, Indian Foreign Minister S M Krishna has gone on record as saying that China is taking more than the usual level of interest in the Indian Ocean, something New Delhi is monitoring carefully.
In light of all this, India politely conveyed to China that it wasn’t willing to wind up IBSA, but it has said that it has no objections to China expanding BRIC into BRICS. At the same time, India has conveyed its readiness to attend the upcoming BRICS summit in Hainan.
Indian diplomats insist that IBSA is here to stay in its present format, and they usually quote Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s 2010 remarks about IBSA and the forum’s importance and relevance for India. Indeed, as Singh has said publicly: ‘IBSA has a personality of its own. It is three separate continents, three democracies. BRIC is a conception devised by Goldman Sachs. We are trying to put life into it.’
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Frank
BRIC vs IBSA = China + Russia vs India
Now Russians understand who the true friends are.
Indians are certainly not reliable friends & allies. Just read their histories.
Indians fought for English, Americans and their enemies Germans and Japanese during WWII. Before that, Indians fought for many other peoples including Mongols, Persians, Greeks, French, and many others.
Jolt
Ur stupid lol india never fought for japan, gemany they fought against em check ur history
Lol
Btw there never fought for any of those ppl u put up there but fought against em they only fought for the British and us in WW 1 and 2 that’s all every1 else they fought against it’s not so complex
Grant
Didn’t the Communist Chinese switch sides to befriend the Americans over the Soviets? And before that didn’t the KMT expel the Communists from their government after befriending them? For that matter, when have the Indians ever fought alongside the Japanese?
Besides all that, India and Russia don’t have many areas of conflict. No border disputes, not much in the way of trade problems and the Indian military has good relations with the Russian military. In contrast Russians fear the more populous Chinese eventually taking Siberia, Chinese inroads made in Central Asia (which used to be Russian territory) and Russian anger at China reverse engineering advanced Russian weapon systems.
EAM
Frank, your comments are one sided. Chinese also fought both against the Japanese and alongside them (Wang Jing Wei’s regime). Chinese troops raised in Guangdong also fought alongside the British in the sack of Beijing in the 1860. There were both Chinese and Indians fighting in the German army during WWII – not to mention the English traitors like Lord Haw Haw and the Russian cossacks.There seems to be only rule in politics whichever country you look at – every country has people in it who are prepared to sell their grandmother if they see gain in it.
But this should derogate from the record of the Indians in WWII which only British writers seem to write about. The Indians fought the second biggest land battle of WWII (after Stalingrad) against Japan at Kohima Imphal – and won. India though fighting to free themselves from the British, fought against the Germans, Italians and Japanese – and won. That they fought under the British flag does not matter. They even sent a medical mission to China that served with the Eight Route Army of Chairman Mao.
There is a lot to criticise about India – but not its record in WWII.
Frank
I agree that there are traitors in all countries. However, the altitude towards those human garbage determines the virtue and eventually the fate of a country.
Indians are still regards Subhas Chandra Bose as their hero speaks of the virtue of that country. That also explains the fate of India reflected by its long history of being occupied by foreigners. What came around comes around.
China has already settled all land border disputes with Russia and all other 16 countries. India is the ONLY country that has land border issues with China.
Russia’s so called anger has no bases consider it reverse-engineered so many American technologies also. Reverse engineering is not a glory thing. However, everybody is doing that. There is no anger between the China and Russia that cannot be settled with money. China has plenty.
Betrays of a long friendship cannot be settled easily. Indians cannot understand that because of so many years of occupations by foreigners and the subsequent obedience school training.
Sanjay Pratap
What the hell is wrong with this site? How can they let stupid,content deprived and wrong posts like that of @Frank to be published? Even a five year old can see that he is posting lies and propaganda and is trying to derail the discussion.
Please Diplomat.com introduce paid registration or at the very least a registration with IP linked to poster so people like Frank can be banned and so we can have a meaningful discussion.
Johnny
@Frank You are wrong on so many points to the point of being repulsive. Let me debunk some of the lies you have posted-
1- “BRIC vs IBSA = China + Russia vs India
Now Russians understand who the true friends are.
Indians are certainly not reliable friends & allies. Just read their histories.
Indians fought for English, Americans and their enemies Germans and Japanese during WWII. Before that, Indians fought for many other peoples including Mongols, Persians, Greeks, French, and many others.”
Actually India and Russia have pretty close relations and they are jointly developing weapons to counter threats. Be it Brahmos, the fastest cruise missile of the world or the FGFA their alliance is pretty successful. Also, if Russia was against India then why would it support India in UNSC, provide India with full tech access, keep providing it cutting edge products and provide nuclear materials to it?
In simple words, despite your wishful thinking, India and Russia are close allies and will continue to be so in near future.
2- “I agree that there are traitors in all countries. However, the altitude towards those human garbage determines the virtue and eventually the fate of a country.”
Human Garbage? Are you serious? Why on the earth would you call someone ‘Garbage’. Seriously, seek psychiatric help.
3- “Indians are still regards Subhas Chandra Bose as their hero speaks of the virtue of that country. That also explains the fate of India reflected by its long history of being occupied by foreigners. What came around comes around.”
Subhas Chandra bose was an Indian who stood against british rule in his country, how is that bad? Also, SCB was not engaged in any massacre or killing like Chinese Mao. Oh, do you know Mao killed millions of Chinese and had a new young virgin for sex everyday? And that Mao is a symbol of China!
Here is proof-
Many of the women that Mao slept with were daughters of poor peasants who Li said believed that sleeping with the chairman was the greatest experience of their life. Mao was happiest and most satisfied when he had several young women simultaneously sharing his bed, and he encouraged his sexual partners to introduce him to others. He often told the young women to read the Taoist sex manual The Plain Girl’s Secret Way, in preparation for their trysts.”
“Mao’s sexual activity was not confined to women,” Li claimed. “The young men who served as attendants were invariably handsome and strong, and one of their responsibilities was to administer a nightly massage as an aid to sleep. Mao insisted that his groin be massaged. In 1964, I saw Mao, naked, grab a young guard and begin fondling him. At first I took such behavior as evidence of a homosexual strain, but later I concluded that it was more an insatiable appetite for any form of sex.” [Source: "The Private Life of Chairman Mao" by Dr. Li Zhisui, October 10, 1994]
4- “China has already settled all land border disputes with Russia and all other 16 countries. India is the ONLY country that has land border issues with China.
Russia’s so called anger has no bases consider it reverse-engineered so many American technologies also. Reverse engineering is not a glory thing. However, everybody is doing that. There is no anger between the China and Russia that cannot be settled with money. China has plenty.
Betrays of a long friendship cannot be settled easily. Indians cannot understand that because of so many years of occupations by foreigners and the subsequent obedience school training.”
China has no border dispute except India. ROFL! Again, I will debunk your false claims.
Bhutan-China disputed border in Bhutanese enclaves in Tibet, namely Cherkip Gompa, Dho, Dungmar, Gesur, Gezon, Itse Gompa, Khochar, Nyanri, Ringung, Sanmar, Tarchen and Zuthulphuk and Kula Kangri and mountainous areas to the west of this peak, plus the western Haa District of Bhutan.
S.Korea-China dispute in Ieodo Island/Suyan Rock (aka Socotra Rock).
Philippine-China dispute in Macclesfield Bank (aka Zhongsha Islands).
Japan-China dispute in Okinotorishima.
Vietnam-China dispute in Paracel Islands.
Also Scarborough Shoal,Senkaku Islands ,Spratly Islands,Tumen River,Yalu river with above.
Russia-China dispute in Kutuzov Island,Tuva, Sixty-Four Villages East of the Heilongjiang River. Not to mention the Arctic oil for which Russian navy chief has warned of escalation just a few months ago. Please read this Russian news http://www.bt.com.bn/news-asia/2010/10/05/china-threat-russia-boosts-arctic-patrols
EAM
Frank, one can make too much of foreign occupation and the “servant”mentality it supposedly creates. The Indians fought against and prevailed over the British. Not the act of “servants”. It is true that Indians do not carry around a hatred towards the British like the feelings of Koreans and Chinese towards Japan. However, I cannot see why the failure of Indians to carry such hatreds shows a slave mentality. I think its is better understood as successful politics in parting on relatively good terms – and kudos to both sides for this achievement – remembering that the British and the Americans remained hostile to each other for about a century after US independence.
I am also not sure about the long history of foreign occupation. The Mughals and the Sultans of Delhi did have a foreign origin but in the adapted and become part of India – just like the Manzhous in China – and ceased to be foreigners. I do not think that Indians generally (excluding some extremists) see Indian Muslims as anything but Indian. Indians never fought to get rid of the Delhi Sultans or the Mughals – but in fact worked with them to run the states they created. The partnership the Hindu Rajputs with the Muslim Mughals is a good example. Indians did fight against the British – probably because unlike other foreign origin rulers, they did not adapt and assimilate successfully.
Regarding your comments of SCB, yes, he did see the Japanese as a means of ending British rule – but he also failed in bringing over the Indian Army – who resoundedly defeated him and the Japanese. While one can question the tactic, he was not alone in this – Sukarno and Aung San for example. Yet both are also revered in Indonesia and Burma respectively.
Frank
Regarding too much of foreign occupation of India and Indian’s “servant”mentality it creates, “the Indians fought against and prevailed over the British.”
WRONG!!!
Indians never fought English voluntarily and NEVER prevailed. It is English gentlemanly gave Indians a country.
However, English masters now understand that their un-loyal Indian employees would turn against their employers in a heart beat.
Russia is learning that now.
Frank
Sanjay Pratap:
Shutting other people up is the way of the so-call India democracy, right?
Only the high caste Indians can speak or post. I do no think that is how your English master taught you.
Frank
Johnny
@ EAM You have posted an educated comment but it wouldn’t stop users like Frank to post hateful comments. People like Frank are here just to spread lies and praise their Dictators of China. This is their job, this is what they are paid for. I mean look at his comment that-
“Regarding too much of foreign occupation of India and Indian’s “servant”mentality it creates, “the Indians fought against and prevailed over the British.”
WRONG!!!
Indians never fought English voluntarily and NEVER prevailed. It is English gentlemanly gave Indians a country.
However, English masters now understand that their un-loyal Indian employees would turn against their employers in a heart beat.
Russia is learning that now.”
He is wrong on every single count and every line he said is racist garbage. People like him have lost all reasoning power and are left only with hatred, a per-requisite for working in Propaganda 50cent blogger of China.
EAM
Frank, I suggest you read some scholarly writings on the Indian nationalist movement before making the kinds of sweeping statements you make. The salient points are as follows:
1. The Indians did fight voluntarily. The Indian Army during WWII was largely newly raised and nationalistic in outlook. It was different to the old British Indian army raised largely from the so-called “martial races”. They fought not because they wanted to defend the British empire but because of an understanding that if they did so and paid a price in blood, the British would go (Cripps Mission). To “encourage” the British after the War, the Indian Navy mutinied in 1946 at which time, the British realised that holding on was viable. “Forgotten Armies” by Bayly sets out the events well.
2. They did prevail because they got the British out – the 1946 Naval uprising was an important event in doing so. Yes, the British did leave gracefully but because they knew that the option of fighting to hold on was beyond their abilities.
3. The Indians were never loyal employees and the British knew it. Lord Lawrence stated that Britian held India by the sword and that was that – loyalty did not enter the picture. The Indians first tried to get rid of the British by force (in the 1850-60s). This failed and over time the nationalists built up their strength and prevailed. If you read the writings of the nationalists eg Nehru and Gandhi, they were anything but “loyal”. Did not Gandhi say that co-operation with the British was “sinful”? The Indians were never loyal and the British knew it. Read even a pre-eminent British historian of the day like Seeley and he clearly says that.
Learn your facts rather than making uninformed comments.
EAM
Johnny, I have to admit that I am astounded by how some of the comments. I have always assumed that these are just hyper-ventilating teenage cyber nationalists. Do you really think that they are directed by their government? If so, this is a lousy way to promote China’s interests because it really does China no good to have an army bloggers who make uninformed comments like this – and make unfair attacks on other countries. I guess all countries including the US, India and even my own (Australia) have their ultra nationalists who carry on but some of the Chinese bloggers seem to take it to a new level. Pity – because it is really quite an ineffective to try to promote your country by slamming other countries in an uninformed way when instead talking positively about your own is far more effective.
Frank
“The Indians were never loyal.” This is another self initiated confession.
I agree.
That explains why after being captured, the volunteer Indian solders would turn side very quickly.
Indian’s servant mentality also reflected by harboring more bad feelings towards Chinese than against their formal English masters despite the later killed more Indians.
Indians only respect those who are stronger than they are. They can be mean and cruel to weaker and less fortunate people.
Chinese withdraw in 1962 made Indians think that Chinese are weaker. When English chained Indians, they are stronger.
Jhonny
@ EAM Yep, thats true indeed. It is funny how all open minded people (with some exceptions) I meet online are from democracies while all hateful, racist and ‘my country will kick yours in ***’ are posted from dictatorships. Coincidence? I think not….
and
@ Frank So you like to Troll? Hope you are proud of your ‘brave’ comments! My advice to you would be – Start saving those 50 cents, use that money to buy a decent book (no the ‘Red history’ books don’t count), read it, be enlightened (hallejuah!) and then come back.
EAM
“self initiated confession”? I am not Indian but Australian. I do not understand your comment. However, you do seem to miss my point. That point is that the British nevr expected “loyalty” because they were foreign rulers. Correspondingly, the Indians never gave it. Both sides understood each other well. The British knew that when their time was up it would be up. Your expectation of loyalty from the Indians is like an expectattion of loyalty from the Koreans to Japan during the period of occuptation just becuase the Japanese were in charge. This does not make sense. I suggest you read up on colonial nationalist movements in Asia. Your comment about the British giving the Indians their country makes as much sense as sayiung that the Manzhous gave China their country. Both countries are much older with long periods of unity and periods of disunity as well eg the San Guo period.
Frank
EAM:
You need to read more to understand both China and India.
Manchu Qing emperor was forced to resign by Han general. There was a genocide of Manchu people in South China. Manzhous gave China their country and let Southern Chinese kill them all?
English was never pushed to give up India by Indians. They were pushed by Japanese “Asia for Asians” policy. In a way, it is Japanese that gave Indians a country.
English were sneaky. They left a mine of Kashmir.
Manchus not only were pushed out of power, they also lost their own homeland and identity.
Very different. Please read more books before making ignorant comments.
Let us go back to the subject.
I think you agree my very first comments about Indians are not loyal. Either to Russia or to English people.
English knew it. We just hope that Russians know it sooner.
With so many years of help and aid from Russia, Indians are still excluding Russia in their “block”. What a country it is.
Frank
Johnny
@ Frank For god’s sake do us all a favor and do a google search (use bing, yahoo if google is blocked in your country) and search for ” India’s independence movement’ or ‘india freedom movement’ and read the history or search in amazon.com and buy books on this matter, there are literally thousands of books and millions of links and if you read even a single one you would understand how Indians fought against british valiantly yet without unnecessary bloodshed.
While you are at it, also read how Chinese killed millions of their own in name of ‘cultural revolution’.
In their book Mao’s Last Revolution (2006), the Sinologists Roderick MacFarquhar and Michael Schoenhals assert that in rural China alone some 36 million people were persecuted, of whom between 750,000 and 1.5 million were killed, with roughly the same number permanently injured.[52] In Mao: The Unknown Story, Jung Chang and Jon Halliday claim that as many as 3 million people died in the violence of the Cultural Revolution.
Sociologist Daniel Chirot claims that around 100 million people suffered and at least one million people, and perhaps as many as 20 million, died in the Cultural Revolution.
This is not my personal opinion it is plain cold truth. If @Frank keeps posting lies about India then I will keep posting truth, with proof, about China.
EAM
Frank, please make up your mind. You first say that the English did the gentlemanly thing and quit India but then you say that the Japanese pushed them out and that they were sneaky. Yes, it was a combination of factors that led the end of the British in India and defeat by Japan was part of the story. But it was the refusal of Indians to go on with British rule and the ability of the Indians to have their way after many decades of building up their strength that decided the outcome. Defeat by Japan for example did not mean the immediate end of Britain’s rule of Malaya.
Can we forget this loyalty thing. As we know, in international relations, there are no permanent friends only permanent interests. China dumped its friend Russia for the US the 1970s. Russia dumped its friend India in the early 90s (I think there was a time when the IAF was seriously short of spares because the Russians were pulling back) – and then they did a volte face later and came back when the realised that the West did not want them. No one condemns China or Russia for these things – it is just how things are and everyone know it.
As for the Manzhous, in a sense they are one of the important makers of modern China since it was under the Qianlong and Kangxi emperors that China’s modern borders were more or less settled. Compare a map of the Ming and Qing domain and it makes the point well. That the Han in some places later turned on them is besides the point. And, yes, the Qing were a contributer to modern China but did not create it – as you suggest the British did with India. Much of the Raj was what they took over from the Mughals including initially the revenue system.
This is all very interesting – but we seem to going terribly off point.
utsav parashar
@Frank:If you are my friend and room mate…I need not take you to every party that I go out for….I’ll come back and tell you the story anyways…….I think this is sufficient to explain India and Russia relations…. cheers!! :)
Arul
@Frank, You can’t hide the sun with your palm! Telling lies continuously wont become truth!
@Johnny,EAM, Please ignore his innocence. After all he is a Chinese too! Their govt use CONTENT FILTERING every where! So they are faraway to know the truth!
guptad
@Sanjay, Raj, Arul, EAM et el, thanks for praising our mother india and denouncing the enemies from USA, Russia, China, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladish, Sikkim, Butan, Burmar, England, Germany. I know our government pay you a lot of money or you are brainwashed. Jai Hind — a slumdog
Kris
Frank,
First admit that you are Chinese. Its pretty obvious. OK. I am Indian. No need to troll. Lets be civilized. Second, admit that you don’t know much about India.
Granted China is doing better than India economically. Guess what? I have Chinese friends who grew up outside Asia who visited both China and India and guess which country they preferred? They all told me that in China they were not free and were not treated with respect. India is a tough place to live but we are free and we wouldn’t want to lose that for 3-4% higher GDP. I am not saying that we don’t have any problems.
I have Chinese friends and generally I dont have any problems with Chinese but I hope India doesnt trust China. When it comes to international politics China has stabbed India in the back. India gave its place in the UNSC to China and China refuses to support it .. we will forget. China took over our peaceful neighbor Tibet.. we will never forget. China is building dams on waters that 200+ million depend on .. we are watching. China is building ports and expanding into Indian ocean .. we are not going anywhere. Building ports far from home is not very smart.
We never wished you harm but we are not blind. You are coming into our turf. We are strong. You can spout your nonsense that we are servile but I assure you we are not. Anyway it doesn’t matter to us what you think. You will see for yourself when the time comes.
Kris
Do you really think that making things up on blogs will change history or anyones perspective? Fortunately, we have pretty good records of recent history even if they are not complete truths. Stick to discussing the truth. You might learn something.
Amartya
@Frank, I’m an Indian and I don’t know why you have got such notions against my country, but if u come here and mix with us u will know we are not the way like u think us to be…in my country every guest is a god…the fact that we don’t engage in hatred against the British is based on the simple understanding of how futile it is the characterise a country on the basis of a few brutal rulers…Indians are less aggressive..we have a free media that exposes all the scams…not like in China where they consider to block facebook over some petty matters…we have no enimity with China…which was once the importer of Indian Culture and the principles of Gautam Buddha…maybe u r just proud over ur skin colour…we have a lot many people here of fair skin dark complexion or an intermediate something….what is the point in this racist agenda…we have 1.21 billion people with 500 languages different culture different religions living together…some rich some poor…some fair some dark…its just that u can find all sorts of diversities in my country…yet they are all Indians…the thing with corruption- does it happen in China, millions of people marching against a corrupt regime and the government giving in…that too just by fasting…i guess this is the strength of India….and not some gdp growth….the Indians are not bothered with the growth…they are simply bothered with the culture…its the only land where the cattle is still worshipped…where ancient earth based pagan religions still flourish alongside Islam or Christianity… a good debator cannot be biased as u are…try to see bothways and learn up ur history well
Michael
Any club that is dominated by India is just a waste of time…just look at SAARC? IBSA is worthless now that South Africa is in BRICS and India knows that. Do the Indians really believe that most important issues are going to be debated in IBSA and not BRICS? lol What will end up happening is that the IBSA countries can debate who has the shittiest democratic system!
Ram
@Frank, Yes India did fight for the British because they forced them to. During WW2 India was their colony and they were treated like slaves who had no other options. Some Indians who managed to reach Singapore did fight for Japan and the Germans because they wanted to kick out the British from their soil.
“Before that, Indians fought for many other peoples including Mongols, Persians, Greeks, French, and many others” This is entirely nonsense, kindly brush up your history before you start your allegations.
karthik
Frank, Its better to know something before you get to speak. It seems you are out of words here, Because you know nothing about india and its history. Ask your higher officials to write something for you to put here and also ask your chinese higher officials to pay you high because you facing here too much insults because of your stupid lies.
Ian Faust
“With so many years of help and aid from Russia, Indians are still excluding Russia in their “block”. What a country it is.”
What a naive comment.
Why should the Indians be “loyal” to the British or anyone for that matter? The British were colonialists and India owes them no loyalty. The British didn’t leave India because of the Japanese, as it was the “Indian” troops that fought against the Japanese and in fact pushed the Japanese out of Burma and out of SOuth-East Asia. The English left India because of the Indian Independence struggle and they couldn’t sustain their colonization any longer. Also, with more than 1 million Indian soldiers born out of World War 2 having the potential to revolt, the British didn’t dare stay any longer.
As to Russia, the quoted comment is utterly ignorant and utterly naive. Why should India remain “loyal” to anybody other than it’s self interests and its ideals ? The Indians have never “copied” Russian military weapons against Russia’s knowledge and profited off them. The Indians have never sided with any power to the detriment of the Russians and India have never provided aid or sanctuary to any dissidents or enemies of Russia. All these India does for “its own sake” and not for Russia. India is loyal to its own ideals of being a liberal democratic country with integrity, responsibility and dignity.
International relations are based on mutual respect and mutual self-interest. Empty loyalty is a fools errand and is not worth much at all. Thus, Russia today understands and respects India’s position because it understands India’s position from a perspective of mutual respect and self interest.
Nadeem
Pakistan will prove itself Best leader of all time. We know the meaning of friendship and we are a peaceful country way better than india,china and britain. They always negotiate for their own satisfaction,we take care of everyone. We are not agressive and war facinated like india or britan or russia. Jst try pakistan once and see.
briana
@frank & EAM -AS IT IS SAID LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS DANGEROUS .BOTH OF THE GUYS ARE IGNORANT ENOUGH AND HAVE NOT BEEN TAUGHT HISTORY PROPERLY.FIRSTLY,QUESTIONING THE TRUSTWORTHINESS OF INDIA ,INDIA HAS BEEN GREAT SUPPOURT TO ALL ITS NEIGHBOURS FROM CENTURIES IN RETURN ALL OF THEM HAS STABBED INDIA.INDIANS ARE VERY FIRM AND ATTACHED TO THEIR VALUES AS INSPITE OF BEING COLONISED FOR CENTURIES THEY COULD NOT ALTER THEIR RELIGION AND VALUES.CHINA HAS LOST ITS RESPECT DUE TO CAPTURING OF TIBET .SHAME @FRANK U R BLIND ENOUGH AND LOST IN UR THOUGHTS THAT UR NOT ABLE TO DO JUSTICE BECAUSE OF CHINESE NATURE. INDIANS DO NOT NEED TO PROOF ITSELF AND DO NOT CONSIDER ANYBODY AS ACCONTABLE TO.SO BETTER CLEAR UR DOUBTS AND READ THE HISTOY OF INDIA.CHINA HAS BEEN BLACK SHEEP OF THE WORLD THEIR INTERUSSIONS COULD BE SEEN IN ARUNACHAL PRADESHAND SUPPOURTING PAKISTANIS BY SELLING NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGIES.CHINESE-REAL MORONS
Yoyo
@Johnny
People like you certainly have no ideas that Russians and Indians are no one ally or best friend. The first one is cunning, treacherous and tends to make trouble between nations. The other one is good for nothing, but love to fool their own selves thought they can compete with China. With no pride, self-deception, delirious, vacillating, big mouth (like to boast a lot), dream too much will be doomed to failure. I think truth should be told. Apparently, we are sick of the westerners’ continuously use India as a tool against China.
kumaran
Nadeem, yes Pakistan is the best. Islam has given it happiness and that is why we hear literally everyday the Pakistanis celebrated their happiness with big booms but unfortunately cause colleteral damages in human casualties.
xia
As a Chinese I must apologize for my quite mental disabled fellow countryman. I don’t know where this hatred towards India comes from but you should know that his/her opinion is the opinion of an individual not of of the whole people of China. We Chinese respect every nationality of the world (perhaps even more than our own)and we will never let a conflict between our two great cultures happen.
As for me I think India is way better fitting as a friend (in sharp contrast to the unstable Pakistan) than a foe and we should gradually break the misunderstandings between our nations and realize which GIANT synergies a full partnership would create: World office and world manufactury, biggest populations on earth, both suffer from industrialization process, both share a similar past in reference to western imperialism, BOTH will be the driver of the 21st century, we shall not make the same mistake as the Caucasian people who fighted/exterminated themselves in 2 world wars and 1 cold war.
We will modernize and together with the other great people of our planet we shall bring forward humanity. After all we are all of the same species, we are all humans. So please even if it sound corny, stop hating, blaming each other.
syam mohan
Mr. Frank’s understanding on Indian National Movement is just “distorted and Misguided”. I still hope Mr.Frank is mentally fit to read and understand logic and historical chronology. Yes because of some stupid useless & mind less loyal indian employees, Britishers were able to occupy india and rule it by employing in all spheres of ruling including defense. You mindless and insane Mr.Frank, tell us why should i support some whites (Britishers), attacking my house… they came to my house and made me slave like employee. But some of my family members, understood the real game of Britishers (always remained foreigners) and rebelled against them.. If briton has real guts, let it dare to come to india frontiers, we teach them lessons. Briton is not equal to our district size… it is not where comparable to india.. India always great and remains great… jai bharat mata.. Jai Hind
Bharateeya
Mr Frank is back with a bang! I request other bloggers to please ignore his comments, however offending they are. Thing is, one is compelled to correct mistakes, lest they be misconstrued as truth henceforth. But frank’s comments are so far removed from reality that they can hardly be taken seriously.
But he’s definitely succeeded in his mission; hijacking the discussion away from the topic at hand! He craves for verbal intercourse. My suggestion is, please leave him to his own machinations. That way, he’ll eventually get tired of verbal masturbation!