You can expect some backsplash when you stir the pot.
That was the case with my last The Diplomat feature article, on the future of the U.S. Navy’s venerable "two-ocean navy" construct.
In a nutshell, I maintained that the U.S. Navy may continue to shrink as the costs of ships, aircraft, and weaponry soar, budgets stagnate, and national priorities shift. In effect, if not by conscious strategic design, Washington may be dismantling the second navy it has maintained since the Second World War. If so, policymakers and commanders must think ahead about how to deploy scarce resources more efficiently. Severely reducing the Atlantic Fleet to assure a surplus of naval might in the Pacific appears prudent if the navy indeed remains in decline. This take on the situation occasioned a fair amount of pushback, mostly from sailors and officers on sea duty aboard navy warships and aircraft. One of the few downsides to serving as professor at the Naval War College is that faculty spend very little time on the "deckplates" conversing with the executors of U.S. maritime strategy. Hearing from seafarers doing business in great waters is always a pleasure, even when we part company on important matters.
The objections took several forms. First, some interlocutors inferred that I advocate a smaller navy. Far from it. Given my druthers, Americans would make the conscious political choice to preserve and extend their mastery of the seas. U.S. sea power has served the nation and the world well for seven decades. The U.S. Navy is smaller in raw numerical terms than it has been since President Woodrow Wilson vowed to construct a "navy second to none" nearly a century ago. Expanding the current 285 ship fleet to the 346 ships espoused by the 2010 Quadrennial Defence Review, or even the 313 ships the navy establishment deems minimally acceptable, would reverse the downward drift in U.S. naval power. Such an expansion, furthermore, should take place in balanced fashion—not just by adding less expensive platforms like the new Littoral Combat Ships now entering the fleet. Such vessels are adequate for lesser missions, but are unable to take much punishment in a serious fight. They can boost the fleet’s numerical strength on paper but dilute its overall combat capacity.
But strategists must accept and work within unpleasant realities rather than wishing them away. The process of drafting strategy and matching it with sufficient means is very orderly—in theory. Senior political leaders draft a strategy in concert with military commanders and Congress, and lawmakers levy resources to procure the means necessary to execute it. Political and fiscal realities being what they are, however, the process is seldom that neat. Rear Adm. J. C. Wylie, America’s foremost sea-power thinker since World War II, describes strategy straightforwardly as a "plan of action" that harnesses means—forces, in the military context—to fulfil national purposes. Wylie observes that congressmen making budgetary decisions are making fundamental strategic decisions, whether they know it or not. If they set a dollar figure too low to fund the necessary means, the armed services may find themselves short on the manpower and hardware they need to reach the goals entrusted to them. The hard reality is that the U.S. Navy appears set to shrink further. Whether the United States will continue funding a complete navy for both the Atlantic and Pacific theatres is doubtful. It behoves naval leaders, public officials, and the electorate to whom they are accountable to think ahead toward a day when the U.S. Navy may remain second to none but can no longer do everything, everywhere, at all times.
Second, some of my correspondents objected to denuding the Atlantic coast of high-end naval forces. They commonly invoked the German naval menace during the world wars. In 1942-1943, for instance, U-boats rampaged within sight of the U.S. east coast and in the Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico. The Soviet Navy comprised a two-ocean challenge from the late 1960s through the 1980s. It provided the impetus for maintaining a two-ocean U.S. Navy until the Soviet downfall in 1991. U.S. naval strategists were startled at the massive Soviet "Okean" naval manoeuvres during the 1970s, when hundreds of Eastern Bloc men-of-war took to the seas simultaneously. A Soviet squadron dispatched to the Eastern Mediterranean outnumbered the U.S. Sixth Fleet during the 1973 Arab-Israeli war. And so forth. But who plays the part of the German High Seas Fleet or Reichsmarine today? Where’s the counterpart to the Soviet Navy?
Nowhere. No "peer competitor," or major adversary, looms over the Atlantic horizon, demanding that a major portion of the U.S. battle fleet remain in east coast seaports. Europe is friendly. Russia has made noises about staging a naval comeback, but its progress remains fitful at best. There are no serious naval powers in Africa or Latin America. The chief banes to navigation in Atlantic sea-lanes are nuisances like piracy in the Gulf of Guinea, drug-running in the Caribbean and Gulf, and—potentially—maritime terrorism. It doesn’t take an Aegis destroyer or a big-deck aircraft carrier to combat such scourges. So why not station low-end assets like Littoral Combat Ships and guided-missile frigates on the East Coast, where they can discharge constabulary functions, while shifting the main battle force to the Pacific? Augmented by a Marine expeditionary contingent centred on amphibious carriers and transports for humanitarian and disaster response, a police-like force could anchor the U.S. naval presence in "permissive" Atlantic waters. Let’s not allow strategic inertia or worst-case thinking to govern fleet dispositions.
Such a redeployment would conform to current strategic guidance. The 2007 U.S. Maritime Strategy calls on the U.S. sea services—the U.S. Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard—to stage "credible combat power" in the Western Pacific and Indian Ocean for the foreseeable future, remaining the dominant maritime force in East, Southeast, and South Asia. Yet some 40 percent of the navy remains in the Atlantic, where it risks becoming a wasting asset. It’s high time to reallocate forces in to support the Maritime Strategy, and to back up President Barack Obama’s pledge to keep the U.S. military number one in this critical region. China’s People’s Liberation Army would be the yardstick for a new "one-power standard." Once concentrated in the Pacific—arrayed not only along the West Coast, Hawaii, and Guam but at forward bases in Japan and, preferably, in central positions like Australia—preponderant U.S. forces would dissuade China from mischief-making, much as Theodore Roosevelt’s "Great White Fleet" did vis-à-vis Imperial Japan a century ago. In the unlikely event a serious threat coalesced in the Atlantic, the fleet could "swing" into eastern waters through the Panama Canal.
And third, some of the critics intimated that I disregard intervening factors working against a wholesale shift of forces from the Atlantic to the Indo-Pacific. Not so. Politics is a messy business. I harbor no illusions that this process will unfold strictly according to strategic logic. Myriad factors shape—and misshape—big, complex decisions like realigning the U.S. sea services. For one thing, it's excruciatingly hard for large institutions to relinquish longstanding commitments. In a way, naval proponents had it easy a century ago: the navy was building up to a one-power standard rather than shedding loads.
Today, by contrast, scaling back commitments engages strong passions like fear and honor. Wouldn’t withdrawing from the Atlantic signal a return to isolationism, collapsing the edifice of U.S. leadership? And then there’s domestic politics. If the Base Realignment and Closure, or BRAC, process showed nothing else, it's that closing military bases or shifting major assets around represents an uphill struggle. The thought of losing defense-related revenues renders lawmakers apoplectic. Legal challenges are commonplace. The Virginia congressional delegation, for instance, pitched a fit last year over proposed plans to transfer one carrier strike group—a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier and its entourage of escorts and support vessels—from Hampton Roads to Mayport, Florida. Imagine the uproar that would greet plans to move all such groups to Pacific or Indian Ocean seaports! A decision of such moment will be neither swift nor easy nor politically painless.
Strategy, it bears repeating, isn't devised in some abstract realm where thinkers boasting forty-pound heads size up the strategic surroundings, set goals, and apportion funding and resources to attain those goals. But approximating such a process should be the objective.
In the final analysis, the American people elect their leaders to lead. One hopes they will choose officeholders wisely at the ballot box, with a view not only to advancing parochial state and local interests, but also to upholding America’s strategic standing.
James Holmes is an associate professor of strategy at the Naval War College. He discussed the two-ocean strategy on National Public Radio last Friday. The views voiced here are his alone.








Steve Alvarado
Mahan would agree with your thoughts. I am sure that the financially strapped cities of Alameda and Vallejo and their congressional representatives would welcome the return of the fleet to San Francisco Bay.
lee
developing more advance missle system to offset the reduce sized of the navy.
yang zi
So far it is words over substance. It could be said that US military posture in real terms will not change much, but rhetoric and diplomatic effort will increase in Asia Pacific. Militarily, US still have plenty of time to redeploy. China is improving but still lag far behind in a high sea battle.
US cannot win a war on Chinese soil, but it can do so on the sea and disrupt Chinese sea lanes, but disrupting Chinese sea lanes means disrupting the business of many countries including US. A blockade of China is a blockade to the world, so what US is thinking?
Answer is, not thinking. A knee jerk reaction to the perceived decline of US vs China. The reality is, US is declining vs the whole world, China is just the most easy to see.
So the impetus for anti-China strategies are not based on morals or world security, but based on the opposition to the global trend. What does this mean?
It simply means this knee jerk strategy is not sustainable. Today is China, tomorrow is Russia, India, Indonesia, Brazil, Turkey, the list goes on.
Yes sure there is no big navy in Atlantic, but this is not going to stay this way forever. If it changes, what to do then? Pull the ships back to east cost? What happens to the west coast “threats”?
The better strategy for the professor to advocate is to start some exercises of cross ocean deployment. Send carrier groups from east to west coast and vice versa. This demonstrates the ability of force reinforcement, and sends a signal to potential foes about US’s capabilities. This strategy is effective and far sighted, not the panic, reactionary redeployment suggested by the professor.
PapaJohn
In time of war, do we and our allies still want to trade with China? So disrupting and eventually cutting off China’s bloodline is what we need to build our force in the Asia-pacific. Without the sea lanes secured, China will be starved to death, thus preventing an all out of war. What the PLAN could do if those bloodline cut off? Would they venture out of Chinese lakes, only to see their fancy vessels sank by the mighty seventh fleet? If China continues on the path of its “peaceful rising”, then nothing would happen but as everyone could see that in last few years, she challenged the US, bullied her neighbors. China needs to be contained. Period.
yang zi
You got this upside down buddy.
John Chan
The author should get himself acquainted with finances before writing naval strategy in grand scheme of things; otherwise his view is restricted and plain ordinary, because he could not think outside the box.
USA has all the natural resources to build a navy 10 times the current size, all it has to do is to dig them up and use them. American can get rid of the Fed, then they can print as much as they want to pay the costs of building the navy, because there is no the Fed, no interest is need to pay on the money printed. Large amount of new Fiat money caused devaluation of the USD internationally, but USA is self sufficient in resources and technology, it does not need to buy much from outside, the devaluation of the USD does not really matter much to the USA as a self contained economy as long as the American does buy from outside.
So problems solved, USA military should have no problem to fill the gravy troughs around the country for the politicians. As Sarah Palin said “dig babe dig.”
Cyrus14
A very ignorant Comment, if you do not know the workings of Political Economy or even only the Economy then you will know how stupid you look right now with this comment.
US is not China that “cheats” on its monetary Policies, so you cannot really compare US with your country.
Secondly, Holmes is a Professor of Strategy at a Naval College if that is not suficien authority for him to write on this topic I do not know what is.
Leonard R.
@Professor Holmes, I think your deck-plate detractors may have a point about
leaving the US east coast defenseless. But if your numbers are correct and
if 40% of US ships are in the Atlantic, it’s just common sense that some
of those need to be shifted to the West Central Pacific.
Russia has nuclear subs that patrol the east coast. The US cannot leave it vulnerable.
Liang1a
Leonard R. wrote:
January 12, 2012 at 2:55 am
@Professor Holmes, I think your deck-plate detractors may have a point about
leaving the US east coast defenseless. But if your numbers are correct and
if 40% of US ships are in the Atlantic, it’s just common sense that some
of those need to be shifted to the West Central Pacific.
Russia has nuclear subs that patrol the east coast. The US cannot leave it vulnerable.
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Liang’s comment:
I guess America will always be one of the richest and most powerful countries in the world given its large territories and relatively advanced technologies. But if the US should neglect its education and technological advancement then its productivity will shrink and its economy will shrink thus leading to a reduction both in technological advancement and size of its military.
America had been the beneficiary of two world wars in the 20th Century where all the major countries wiped themselves out. Especially China had been collapsing over the last 200 years since the last stage of the corrupt Qing Dynasty. Now all the other nations have recovered and especially China is rising. With China only developed to some 10% of its full potential, it is already as big as America on the real PPP basis. As China progresses to its full potential it will again account for more than half of all economic output of the world with a military to match. Therefore, even if America can maintain its current economic output and technological advancement, it will be hard put to maintain its military spending. In the final analysis, what the American leadership should be considering is how to make peace with China as the best way to assure America’s security. Arms racing with China will inevitably exhaust America’s shrinking economy relative to China’s ultimately humongous economy. Even granted American military strategists are very clever, as the Chinese saying goes, “巧媳妇难做无米粥.” (A clever daughter in law cannot cook rice without grains.) As America’s economy shrinks, it can no longer support a huge military. Therefore, like everything else America must curtail its military spending to enable sufficient spending to be devoted to the education, medical aids, social services, etc. to maintain a minimally functioning society. Otherwise, America will decline into a second rate nation plagued by backward technologies and unstable society with increasing corruption as government officials resort to bribes and extortions to supplement their shrinking incomes.
In the final analysis, it is not what America wants but what it can afford that will determine how it fashion its military. And confronting China is no longer a luxury America can afford.
Leonard R.
@Liang1A: “…confronting China is no longer a luxury America can afford.”
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Not responding to the PRC’s attacks, insults and provocations is a luxury the US can no longer afford.
Liang1a
Leonard R. wrote:
January 13, 2012 at 7:30 am
@Liang1A: “…confronting China is no longer a luxury America can afford.”
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Not responding to the PRC’s attacks, insults and provocations is a luxury the US can no longer afford.
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Liang’s response:
Can you be more specific and give us examples of how China:
1. attack US
2. insult US
3. provoke US
And how is the US going to respond to these alleged attacks, insults, and provocation? Maybe by encircling and containing China? And how does this square with the supposed world trend of peace and cooperation? I guess you will argue that it is China that is the only one going against the alleged world trend of peace and cooperation. And not the least with what is the US going to respond to China? How can the US respond to China with dwindling number of carriers while China is increasing its number of carriers? Maybe the US can make funny talks of containing China and make China laugh itself to death.
yang zi
Leonard is just a guy with too much testosterone. or had a few shots of Jack Daniels.
Liang1a
People like Wu Jianmin advocate that China must not use force to take back its sovereign territories. They argue that the world is now on a trend to peace and global cooperation. But they are lying because all countries around China are arming themselves. For example Japan is buying dozens of F-35 to defeat China. And India and Vietnam are all spending a large part of their GDP to expand their militaries. And now the US is shifting its main military forces to encircle China including shifting its naval forces to Asia. Therefore, people like Wu are traitors for trying to trick the Chinese people into compacency and emasculating China of its military ability to defend itself.
Fortunately, China’s military has been expanding in spite of Deng and the Dengists’ attempt to destroy it. Oftentimes the Chinese military had to support itself by selling commercial products and arms to foreign countries. The Chinese military budget had shrunk to just 1.6% of the GDP in spite of the fact that exports account for some $1.5 trillion or more and some 25% of GDP. Exports only enrich the few compradors while impoverishing the vast majority of the Chinese people. Especially, the Dengists are destroying the Chinese military.
The Chinese military has done well in spite of the Dengists’ attempt to destroy it. They have efficiently used the little funding they have to develop and deploy just about all of the world’s cutting edge military technologies. The most recent unveiling of Chinese military weapons is the J-16 which is the Chinese version of Su-30. This heavy fighter has a combat range of some 3,500 km and a full range of 8,000 km. This will allow it to cover the entire S. China Sea. The coast of Palawan is less than 1,500 km from Hainan Island. Therefore, China does not need any aircraft carrier to be able to extend its air power over the SCS. The report says some 24 J-16 have been deployed to the South Sea naval command, specifically to the 22nd Squadron of the 8th Brigade.
And talking about aircraft carrier, I had said recently that the Chinese air force could be using a mock carrier deck for practising taking off and landing on Varyag. There is a report that shows pictures of such a mock deck. To see these pictures please go to the following link:
http://www.junshijia.com/article/201201/89026.html
I think there were at least some 500 4th generation fighters at the beginning of 2011. During the year some 150 to 300 new 4th generation fighters could have been added so that now there may be some 650 to 800 4th generation fighters, apparently including some 24 J-16s. By the end of 2012 there could be another 150 to 300 new 4th generation fighters such as J-10B, J-11B and J-16 to bring the total number of Chinese 4th generation fighters to as many as 1,100. And there could also be more J-20 deployed for testing.
In a separate news it seems Chinese navy had tested the simultaneous launching of up to 6 JL-2 SLBMs from a single Type 094 SSBN. This successfully demonstrated that China conclusively has the ability to launch the full complement of SLBMs the Type 094 SSBN carry which number at least 12 JL-2. There are maybe 5 Type 094 SSBN some of which may carry up to 24 SLBMs.
Liang1a
As I have said repeatedly, the size of a country’s military depends on its economy. Given China’s rapidly expanding economy and America’s stagnant economy which is in danger of collapsing, there can only be a growing disparity to the advantage of China. This means that Chinese navy would be expanding while amereican navy would be in danger of shrinking. The obvious conclusion is that America should modify its foreign and military policy to reflect this shifting balance. Stop its confrontation of China and pull its military out of the western Pacific. Try to use peace instead of war to promote America’s foreign business. Try to establish friendly relationship with China. Otherwise, when China’s economy reaches $100 trillion and America’s economy stays at $15 trillion, then America can only be humiliated by China with its more than 6 times of superior military. Even if America managed to scrape up 350 naval ships they will be looking at some 2,000 Chinese ships of even more advanced technologies. America will surely lose.
ke si qian
@Liang1a, I have seen your nationalistic comments all over this forum and others. Can you be objectvie and do you work for the propaganda dept for the PRC? The US economy is growing a respectable 2% and can maintain its military. PRC economy is now shriking as the “WEST” is not buying so much from China. Remember, it was the USA that helped China to the WTO. China’s recent behavior has been competitive with the USA on all levels. Think before you comment.
Liang1a
ke si qian wrote:
January 13, 2012 at 2:04 am
@Liang1a, I have seen your nationalistic comments all over this forum and others. Can you be objectvie and do you work for the propaganda dept for the PRC? The US economy is growing a respectable 2% and can maintain its military. PRC economy is now shriking as the “WEST” is not buying so much from China. Remember, it was the USA that helped China to the WTO. China’s recent behavior has been competitive with the USA on all levels. Think before you comment.
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Liang’s response:
The WTO is nothing more than a dog collar around China’s neck. It is even more invasive than the unequal treaties of 100 to 200 years ago. I have always demanded that China must immediately get out of it.
Obviously China’s exports have declined over the last few years or at least slowed in its rate of growth. This is all the evidence anybody should need to realize that China cannot depend on exports for its sustainable growth into the future. As I have always said, China needs and can enable its people to increase their productivity to the same high level as that of the Japanese and the Americans which is less than $50,000 per capita GDP in 2011. This means a total GDP of some $75 trillion. But since Chinese are more industrious than Americans on the average, it is possible for Chinese to achieve at least $66,000 per capita GDP and total GDP or GNP of $100 trillion or more on a populationn of 1.5 billion by 2040. Therefore, foreign trade cannot be any more than a few percentage point of its ultimate economy which will exceed the rest of the combined economies of the world by 1.5 times or more. Therefore, the WTO is less than useless and only allows the foreigners to invade and harms China’s economy in the end.
The truth is that since 1994 China has been propping up the American economy. If you or any Americans feel they are being taken advantage of by the Chinese, then I dare you to pass a law prohibiting trade with China. Frankly, that would be the best thing for China. Therefore, there is nothing for China to thank the West for. It would be like Sinbad the sailor thanking the Old Man of the Sea for riding on his back and treating him like a human donkey for years. It is obvious that China should do to the West what Sinbad had done to the Old Man of the Sea. That is, to throw it off its back and smash its head in with a big rock. Or for China to get out of the WTO and ban FDI and then concentrate on developing its domestic economy based on the indigenous advancement of technologies and the urbanization of the farmers.
The US economy is barely keeping up with its population growth which is mostly due to the influx of immigrants from China among others. There is very little growth due to the expansion of productivity. And the increases in the nominal GDP is entirely due to the inflation which is rampant. After adjusting for inflation, America’s GDP growth is flat or maybe even negative.
From the data provided below from the indicated link, you can see America’s real GDP changed from $12.623 trillion in 2005 to $13.088 trillion in 2010. This is a growth of only $0.465 trillion or 3.7% over the 6 years or some 0.6% per year. But looking at the real per capita GDP, it changed from $42,612 in 2005 to $42,204 in 2010 for a net decrease of $408. That is to say, America’s economy has shrunk on a per capita basis. It minuscule total GDP growth is only due to population expansion mostly from Chinese immigrants who bring in hundreds of billions of dollars to prop up the failing American economy. So anybody who says America can afford to expand its military or even just to maintain its current military expenditure is ignorant of the truth. This means ke si qian has no idea what he is talking about or was deliberately lying. In the final analysis, America is useless to China. In fact, America is sucking the economic lifeblood of China while endangering its economic developing and threatening its national security. Only fools like the CCP Dengists are allowing China to be so harmed by Japan and the West and America in particular.
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http://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/usgdp/result.php
Year: 2005
Nominal GDP
12,623,000
Real GDP (millions of 2005 dollars)
12,623,000
Nominal GDP per capita (current dollars)
42,612.30
Real GDP per capita (year 2005 dollars
42,612.30
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Year: 2010
Nominal GDP
14,526,500
Real GDP (millions of 2005 dollars)
13,088,000
Nominal GDP per capita (current dollars)
46,843.66
Real GDP per capita (year 2005 dollars
42,204.92
Maximus
My sentiments exactly, Liang1a. In view of America and Europe’s double standards in observing the rules of the WTO, I question what is the use of the Western controlled WTO? Washington is lawless. The WTO rules does not applies to it. It can implement protectionistic conditions as and when it desires. Same with Europe’s persistent “dumping” charges to justify huge increases in tariffs or outright banning of imported products just to protect its own industries. China doesn’t need the WTO’s to trade with the world. It can initiate a new global trading body for the rest of the world. The WTO is just a tool of America’s global control. It their club.
Liang1a
Maximus wrote:
January 13, 2012 at 12:29 pm
My sentiments exactly, Liang1a. In view of America and Europe’s double standards in observing the rules of the WTO, I question what is the use of the Western controlled WTO? Washington is lawless. The WTO rules does not applies to it. It can implement protectionistic conditions as and when it desires. Same with Europe’s persistent “dumping” charges to justify huge increases in tariffs or outright banning of imported products just to protect its own industries. China doesn’t need the WTO’s to trade with the world. It can initiate a new global trading body for the rest of the world. The WTO is just a tool of America’s global control. It their club.
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Liang’s response:
China has been increasing the number of bilateral trade agreements. It has also been increasing the use of yuan as the medium of trade with countries such as Russia. In time as the technologies and economy of China expand, it can use yuan exclusively in foreign trade. In time it will not need to use dollars at all for trade. Instead, China’s yuan will replace dollar as the most desirable foreign reserve for the world.
Cyrus14
Think that what China is experiencing now is what Japan has been destined before the bubble burst.
So I would think twice on this, also the Yuan has been undervalued by China and I do not think it will become the preferred currency for trade unless China stops undervalueing the Yuan.
ke si qian
What are the ten top Navies in the world? Difficult to answer exactly. Certain variables must be looked at such as “power projection”; is it a “blue water” navy or a “brown water” navy? Does the navy have an air craft carrier? What about submarines with ICBM’s and cruise missiles? Modern ships, bases worldwide among other things? There is also training, disposition of forces and many other factors. I have made a list based on my experience in the US Navy and my former position in Naval Intelligence. The below list is not exact, for instance, I did not know where to put numbers 3 thru 7 exactly. France, Britain and even Italy can bring their navies to China and Japan and attack with ease (though Britain just moth balled its only carrier) while China and Japan could not do the same to them. As I said, there are many variables but here is my list.
1.) United States (American) Navy: The most powerful without a doubt. 12 super-carriers, two more are being built. One super-carrier can deliver a potent air force to the backyard of most of the world’s countries. Its 10 amphibious assault ships (two more under construction) are more powerful than other countries aircraft carriers. Bases around the world with 5 major fleets. The US Navy may have the power of the rest of the navies (show below) combined.
2. Russian Navy: Still have a lot of big ships and nuclear subs. Power projection is still there though could be replaced to number 3 or 4 in the near future. (no carrier)
3. Japanese Navy: No aircraft carriers but has two helicopter destroyers that essentially look like small carriers. Two more are in the making and much larger which they technically must call “aircraft carriers”. Many modern destroyers with AEGIS system (US technology). A surprisingly large, modern and mostly USA built navy.
4. French Navy: Modern navy with a nuclear carrier and submarines. May be considered for number 3 as it has more power projection than Japans.
5. British Navy: Being downgraded due to budget constraints. Possibly number 6 now. The “Queen Elizabeth” aircraft carrier is being built.
6. Chinese Navy: Lots of destroyers but many of them old and obsolete. Has just refitted an old Soviet aircraft carrier. Big plans for the future including an additional “home grown” aircraft carrier but until then, still a mostly dilapidated “brown water” fleet.
7. Italian Navy: A considerable navy with an aircraft carrier. Along with the USA and France, they are the masters of the Mediterranean. May be ranked ahead of China.
8. Spanish Navy: Similar to the Italian navy. AEGIS destroyers and modern fleet.
9. South Korea Navy: Modern ships and amphibious capability. AEGIS technology.
10. Indian Navy: Considerable number of ships. Old aircraft carrier (ex-HMS Hermes). Like China, big plans for the future. Along with the USA and France, masters of the Indian Ocean (France has a base in the IO).
Other important Navies:
German Navy
Canadian Navy
Australian Navy
Brazilian Navy
yang zi
I must protest, Indian Navy should be number 3, Indian Navy is the master of Indian Ocean. North Korea navy should be ahead of South Korea navy. Don’t you forget who sank a S Korea ship?
venkat s kanakamedala
it may be wise to reinforce the pacific fleet by america and nato presence requred in a striking range close china.if any one wish to win a war against china better to open many fronts from all sides.america,nato n its allies in asia should always be alert against the china n its allies .russia also playing wicked international politics.it is like cat on a wall.better for nato n america n its allies in asia should have all means to detter china n its allies.better to have updated 200,000 MX nukes n also to have highly effective DMS .better to advance more raptors to strike from a DISTANCE WHERE CHINA CAN NOT REACH THE PLACES.NUKE MISSILE CARRIERS SHOULD BE IN PACIFIC FLEET TO REDUCE THE TIME TAKES TO STRIKE.THE DMS,TMS N,MISSILE CARRIERS AND GOOD ADVANCED RAPTORS ARE REQUIRED TO DETER THE CHINA N ITS ALLIES.
SubIconoclast
East Coast based nuclear submarines can quickly flow to WestPac through the Arctic when needed, while providing standing ASW capability (and ASUW, precision littoral strike, ISR, etc) for the Atlantic and Mediterranean.
Surface forces, lacking the luxury of reliable and fast Arctic transit, might better serve the nation’s security needs with rebalancing toward the Pacific… but as Jim notes in his article, politics are local and politicians can be relied upon to block the shifting of federal resources away from their districts. I’m less optimistic than our author that American grand strategy might become anything more than an intellectual exercise until we face an undeniable threat. By that time, we’ll likely have no choice but to fight with forces designed to help Senators and Representatives win reelection.
wang xi juan
the china just a tiger paper, they’re alway copycat,