The new phase of Chinese naval development could include even more new weapons and sensors than the previous phase, if the recent launch of another specialized testing ship is any indication.
Last month, the PLA Navy launched “Ship 893,” its third new weapons trials vessel since 2005. Trials ships are equipped with systems to track and analyze new missiles and sensors during testing.
The People’s Liberation Army develops and builds weapons in five-year cycles, the most recent of which began in late 2010. The 2006-2010 cycle heavily emphasized new ships, including new frigates and destroyers and a refurbished Soviet-made aircraft carrier.
The current cycle, which ends around 2015, could focus more on “subsystems” such as radars, weapons and what’s known as “Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconaissance,” or “C4ISR” – the development of which requires extensive trials. “The greatest support for PLAN modernization comes from the launching of the 893 test ship,” says “Feng,” an independent analyst and contributor to the Information Dissemination blog.
The growth in the test-ship fleet “would indicate [China] has a lot of naval subsystems under development,” Feng wrote in a blog entry.
Exactly what kinds of subsystems the PLAN might develop in the coming years is a matter of speculation, but it’s possible to make educated guesses based on the Chinese navy’s major capability shortfalls. “China’s navy continues to exhibit limitations or weaknesses in several areas, including...C4ISR systems [and] anti-air warfare,” the Congressional Research Service reports.
Based on these weaknesses, Ship 893 could be used to test out new air-search radars and surface-to-air missiles, plus related radio datalinks. The goal would be to develop naval air defenses closer in capability to the U.S. Navy’s vaunted Aegis system.
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venkat s kanakamedala
china is getting strong with an evil intention.china economy n china military both are interlinked.china is a threat to peace in asia n to the world.first step china should be changed to a free n good democratic nation.its ambition of agressiveness against its neighbours should be countered by other responsible nations.india should have strtegic relationship with nato.this willl solve the probllem in asia n in the world.
John Chan
India is rattling nuclear sable to anyone insight because it is dreaming to carry on its former master’s imperial extension. It spends billions on Rube Goldberg weapons to fatten the pockets of the rich western nations while letting its 800 million poor go hungry, it is the psyche of a lackey nation.
India use its fake democracy to cover up its inhumane caste system that abuse human being by birth, meanwhile brutally killing its innocent civilians living the areas of insurgence that want to break away from India and regain their independence.
Darren P
And yet China is the nation with the “one child” policy- which forces millions of babies to be aborted every year.
Speaking of Rube Goldberg contraptions John- that is the definition of the DF-21D Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile.
John Chan
@Darren P,
Are you saying Homeland securities, CIA, FBI, the Pentagon, etc. are all boneheads? If you are insisting that China could pick up USA top military technologies in the USA unimpeded. USA security agencies must pay you a visit to see if you are connected to the terrorists that are there to discredit the capabilities of those security agencies to protect the USA.
The enmity between China and Japan is irrelevant, it is the security of the USA at the stake here, because USA wants a two oceans and two-power standard navy to protect itself, but hardware alone is not enough to protect itself, USA must clearly identify where the real danger lies, I just point out the real danger for the USA “A rearmed Japan is more dangerous to the USA, Japanese definitely has not forgot the two nukes they got from the USA, returning the favour is Japanese way of life.”
Darren P
“but hardware alone is not enough to protect itself”…
John, that’s the FIRST thing you’ve said in a while that makes any sense. It is especially apt given China’s attempts at military expansion; you guys seem to think that the mere acquisition of such technology puts you on a par with us when it comes to operating a modern deep water Navy. I’ve got news for you- it takes ime to leanr how to operate ships, and to integrate those ships into battle groups hat can be used to achieve national policy aims. China is still decades away from being able to do so.
As far as the Chinese techology theft accusations- check these links out (hopefully the “Great Firewall” will allow these to pass through)-
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/jun/27/20050627-124909-2991r/?page=all
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/01/chinese-spy-buy-caught-on-video/?page=all
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/3319656
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704679204575646472655698844.html
Dismiss and deflect Chinese intellectual property theft all you want; it seems to be the primary way in which China develops it’s “own” military technolgy.
And I would think China, of all countries, would be the ones who most remember what Japan did to them in WW2. Are you sure that enmity is irrelevant?
John Chan
@Darren P,
You know nothing about Intellectual Property thieves. Americans are the worst and largest IP thieves. IP rights are supposed to reward the contribution and the hard work of the creators. Nowadays most of the creations are done by people on salary, all their creations belong to the organizations hiring them. The profits from their creations belong to their originations, and the greedy CEO and shareholders of their organizations enjoy most part of those profits. All the creators can get is meagre salary and some bonus if they are lucky; it is completely against the purpose of IP right original envisaged.
Those CEO, management and shareholder have done nothing in the creations but they pocket the most part of the fruit of the creators’ efforts, if you cannot call those CEO, management and shareholders IP thieves, what else can you call them?
Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc. are suing each other non-stop on IP infringement, as well as there are armies of patent lawyers in the USA and other Westpac members constantly suing others to bloat their pockets. What do you call those legal activities for? Aren’t they catching IP theft? USA has largest number of IP infringement law sues; if you cannot call USA is the largest IP theft nation, what else you can call?
Using sources from the neo-con black information network to support you false allegation is called perjury, you should be prosecuted for committing such crime. Without understanding IP rights, engineering and manufacturing, you smear China IP violation, it is simply bad faith and mean spirited.
The predatory aggression and the unreasonableness of its citizen like you indeed remind me USA is behaving exactly like the Fascist Japan in WWII.
John Chan
@Darren P,
In Falkland Island incident, an almighty British armada suffered terribly in the hands of a few brave Argentinean pilots. In 1974 Paracel Islands incident, China’s small patrol boats defeated Vietnam’s superior American destroyers.
Neither USA nor China navy has seen large-scale real naval war since WWII; both navies only have experience from drills. Bragging non-battle tested USA navy, as an invincible navy surly like someone dancing on the thin air.
John Chan
@Darren P,
Here is a clip to show you how Rome beat Carthage which was a great sea power, while Romans had never fought a war at sea and even did not know how to build war ships. Since you brag about the almighty USA navy non-stop, this clip perhaps can remind you what might happen to a great sea power like Carthage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZrjXEomBXM
Kristal
Its good that you mentioned India up there….. Because, for a moment i thought you were actually referring to phonies & fallacies of China! India is a genuine democracy unlike China, which is a showpiece one – doing (miniscule) reforms out of ‘necessity’ rather than interest. Whatever reforms people are demanding in Mynamar or West Asia were already provided LEGALLY by the Indian constitution – 60 years ago! It is because of this democracy that India’s marginalised are able to voice their dissent – in PUBLIC! It is possible in india for a single man to go on a fast & challenge the prime minister head-on, but in China, doing that will only invite the wrath of army tanks running over you! (Read Tiananmen Square incidents!)
Kristal
oh…. and regarding the so-called “rube-goldberg” weapons systems that you say india is “purchasing” from the West, i’m sure you have a point there. Maybe those guys (Indians) should try to reverse engineer stuff like the Chineese or hack into western companies’ servers & steal their blueprints or pay a visit to a vassal state in the neighbourhood to learn about the stealth paint on a downed Black Hawk???? I mean, cheeez….. Why aren’t the indians so good at stealing stuff & calling it their own – like the Chinese???
P.S: “……China, the worst offender, steals American technology as a matter of national policy, and is expected to remain the leading ‘thief’ unless something dramatic is done.”
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47433
yang zi
Kristal, using links to articles with made up facts doesn’t make you convincing. Before accusing China steal anything, ask yourself what you have done, at least that guy invented the Dyson vacuum machine has right to accuse China, even though he is wrong, your accusation is just sour grapes, you invented nothing!
Don’t forget all men are created equal. China has many smart hard working people who are inventing, and learning too. China’s success is due to its hard work, not you.
a_canadian_observer
@yangzi: Give me a break. china’s stealing is a known FACT and I would be ashamed if I were mainland chinese. BTW, please enlighten us with a list of contemporary inventors from china, with genuine ideas and products?
@John Chan: Your rant about IPs in the US is tiring. In a competitive market, it’s common that multiple “people” can come up with same ideas at almost the same times. That’s why we have IP laws to protect the ones that file first. Regarding the inventors, it’s all dependent on the nature of the inventions. Some are easy to produce, in which case the inventors can work his way to bring his to the market. Others are complicated and costly which require the scales of a large corporation to produce. Besides, inventions may be born from the fruit of BEING employed and WORKING in the specific field that only the corporate can accomodate. John, that’s much better than stealing outright from others like what china has been doing, so, stop uttering your nonsense.
Kristal
@Yang Zi: I never mentioned anywhere that the Chinese are stupid or incapable of inventing anything on their own. Yes, all men are equal & have similar (but not same)capabilities. In my trips to China i’ve admired the Chinese determination & capabilites as much as i admired the indians. The point being the suppposed route the Chinese seem to have taken in furthering their goals. While Pentagon itself has officially acknowledged in several statements that the Chinese ‘alone’ are not the source of all their cyber attacks. Meaning that the principal conspirators are the Chinese & the Russians. In addition to Iran, albeit on a much smaller scale. While nations waging clandestine cyber warfare against the Americans seem to be interested in learning what the Americans are upto or simply a cyber version of the war of attrition. But analysts claim that the Chinese methodology seems to be in acquiring such technology to furthur their own reasearch in those areas. This is like removing bricks from a neighbours house, only to build your own!
Now, i can give links to support all those above claims. But i’m sure that you’d despise any “western” reports as mere propanganda & baselesss with “made-up” facts. I want to clarify again that im only refering to those Chinese who are doing these illegal acts & NOT the general Chinese populace. So this comment is supposed to only aggravate those guys’ temper. Definitely not yours, Sir.
John Chan
@a_canadian_observer,
The anti-China clique is never tired of bashing and smearing China with their specious IP violation allegations, why are you tiring when you are told about the IP theft that exists in Canada and other Westpac nations? Is it you consider IP theft only applies to China, but patent infringement in the Westpac nations is way of life to rip off the creators that is legitimized by their legal system? If you do, surely you are the diehard American exceptionalist who view himself exempt from common morality.
John Chan
@Kristal,
India is not a democracy; it is a caste society that abuses human beings by birth. Having election is not democracy; please do no white wash the dark reality in India by abusing the term democracy. There are many nations have elections, but they are dictatorial, authoritarian and totalitarian nations. India is a elected plutocracy and oligarchy. Election just covers up India’s refusal to make fundamental change to improve human rights for it’s suppressed and exploited lower castes.
a_canadian_observer
BTW, below is what I posted @http://the-diplomat.com/asean-beat/2011/12/20/philippines-media-bias/#respond
but there has been no response:
“This natural disater has probably weakened the Philipines a bit. Those CCP bloggers are probably uncorking champanes now.
BTW, has the #2 economy in the world offered any help to those unfortunates?”
So, CCP bloggers, please speak up instead of boasting about china.
a_canadian_observer
CCP bloggers are also MIA from http://the-diplomat.com/2011/12/17/what-was-china%e2%80%99s-khmer-rouge-role/comment-page-1/#comments
Common, crawl out from under the rock and defend china. There’s a lot of “bashing and smearing china” going on there.
Kristal
@John Chan: Wouldn’t you agree that every nation has one form of discrimination & exploitation happening within its borders??? If its the problem of race in one country, it is religion in the other or the rich-poor divide in the Third. For india it is caste maybe…. Humans are all unique – with varied ideologies or reasoning. The question was never about the ‘presence’ of such differences inside any country. It is about whether the people affected by those very differences are able to do anything about it or not! Demoracy “Empowers” its citizens.
Based on the reports i’m reading, Indians seem to be able to voice their “dissent” openly & induce a course correction within the adminstration! Indian politicians are corrupt, no doubt. But its their democracy that brings it out. You won’t see that in any other quasi-democracy or non-democracy. For instance, the now deceased North Korean leader was known to receive fresh ‘live’ lobsters which were air-lifted to his official train, whilst travelling. And that happens to be in a country that nearly got wiped out in a catatrophic famine. I’m sure such wasteful expenditure canbe curtailed by Indians through appropriate leagal means.
Besides, elections alone do not constitute a democracy – you are right on that. But in Inida such elections are conducted by a professional , “constitutionally” leagal & autonomous commission. Otherwise why would they be invited to “supervise & conduct” elections in Nepal & Bhutan? Why would they be invited by Russia, thailand, Bangladesh & Kazakhstan etc etc.????
bangsarster
John Chan,
First, you speak about India and its colonial master. Look at yourself Sir, is John a Chinese name??? It was the Han Chinese who are still living under the West’s mental prison. There are a lot of Chinese with English names.
John Chan
@bangsarster,
I made meaningful contribution to the debate of this article, what have you done? Why don’t you make some meaningful contribution to the debate that can resolve the tensions that exist in the world? Or it is too much to expect from a bonehead who only can make trivial troll?
In order to convey Chinese point of view to the linguistic deficiency westerners and its lackey, I have to make the effort to communicate with the anti-China bigots like you in order for them to understand; for the peace and prosperity of the world. I am proud to make such effort. If the world is as ignorant and bigotry as you who only know to pick on other blogger’s name, I am afraid the whole world would have gone up in smoke ling time ago.
Despite Chinese’s best effort to persuade the Westpac to resolve disputes thru peaceful means thru English and other western languages, but the predatory Imperialist Westpac insists on that bombing and killing under the façade of democracy and human rights the way of choice to settle scores. It is sad for the humanity; you surly make the future of humanity less optimistic.
a_canadian_observer
@John Chan: Calm down. I need you to go to this following article and defend china. There’s a lot of “bashing and smearing china” going on there.
http://the-diplomat.com/2011/12/17/what-was-china%e2%80%99s-khmer-rouge-role/comment-page-1/#comments
Kristal
@Bangsraster: I’m sure there’s nothing in a name! Just because a person has a western name or drives a GM or eats a McDonalds burger – makes him a prisoner of the west??? This page would look a whole lot better without “induvidual targetting”.
There’s nothing wrong with the Chinese or indians retaining their “English” names from their erstwhile masters. Its a matter of personal choice. Besides, who says that everything western is evil or sinister in design???
yang zi
to think US will dominate forever is counter to what US declared in its constitution, that all man are created equal.
US should gave up its practice of persuasion by military force, or to put it bluntly, blackmailing.
the world needs a new solution, not by a country threatening to act as pirates while claiming to protect shipping lanes. All the world’s shipping lanes should be protected like gulf of Aden, by UN sanctioned joint patrols
When Chinese destroyers patrols SCS, Vietnam and Philippines can sail their ships along. When Chinese carrier sail through Okinawa islands, Japanese flattops can lead the way. When a Chinese super tanker goes through the strait of Malacca, it is waving hello to an Indian patrol ship.
This is how to get things done. Commerce is the lifeline of all of us, lets deal with it as such.
yang zi
this is an link about the Chinese laser gun. May be Liang1a can translate it. it may be behind US’s effort, but not by much IMO
http://news.ifeng.com/mil/2/detail_2011_12/20/11439473_0.shtml
Darren P
@yang zi- When China can demonstrate that it can act like a responsible power, you will see Chinese ships integrated into multinational task forces.
nirvana
Yang zi seems to miss the exact meaning of “all men are created equal” in the US Constitution. The whole paragraph pertaining to that “Clause” is:
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“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed”
That some US governments failed to derive “their just power” and acted without the “consent of the governed” is a fact. We can deny that the Americans have used the power conferred to them by their Constitution to remove these governments.
Now, if Yang Zi is interested, we can make some interesting comparison with the less “self-evident” truths proclaimed in China’s Consitution and consequently the difficulty the Chinese have to show their non-consent to their government.
nirvana
Sorry for the typo. “We CAN’t deny that the Americans…”
jetcal1
Well Mr. Chan,
To compare America to Japan of the era of The Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere with the resulting rape of Nanking is quite a leap. As an American I find your comment to be disgusting. And, your views are not significantly different then those who founded The Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. I am well aware of the history of China, I would suggest that you perhaps discard your self-absorbed and parochial views of being the victim and do some reading about the US and India.
John Chan
@jetcal1,
Of course there are differences between USA and Fascist Japan in details, but in the grand scheme of things, they are more or less the same, they are predatory imperialist and want to put China back to the era of unequal treaties.
Chinese bloggers are here to rebuke lies told about China, correct distorted facts fabricated about China and clear smear painted on China. If you find my comments disgusting then you must be prejudice without realizing it yourself, because you find my rebuking with truth uncomfortable.
BTW, neither USA nor Japan are democracy, they are Corporatocracy with a election system.
Valbonne
In this modern age everybody is stealing technology from every body. Any country claims that she is the only country which did not steal technologies from other countries is a true “Liar”. Every country either steal or learn from other counties because nobody is an “Island”. So, my fellow readers, do not try to be self-righteous.
Wilizyoyo
As human-beings, we all are the same (equal), no hierarchy, and no races separated between white, yellow and black. However, westerners’, Americans in particular loved to brag, boast or fabricate things not true. Indians are keen on learning or got infected by the nature of majority Americans. Undeniable their (Americans) natures were born to be hatred, reason because they became so addicted to manipulate or even twisted facts. In order for the Americans to perpetuate their domination to the world, or known as “police the world”. The Americans shamelessly make up stories and justified their plot to seize weaker country, such as Afghanistan and Iraq. Americans are evil or good, I will let the public to decide.
Dean service
If India is a democracy, the universality of democracy is in question. Why you want to live in India, a supposedly democracy, instead of Singapore, a non-democratic nation. Democracy is soooo overrated. Americans and Canadians are brainwashed to believe democracy is infallible. You can get away with saying you are an atheist, but you would be crucified by saying democracy may not be all good for all nations. What brain dead are these people! Where is reasoning? White racism also drives some of the commentators here. Before 15th century, you people were thought no more than today’s mideasterners, the wild-eyed crazies!
sal
I think US should start setting up US bases in CHINA or near CHINA. 2nd US, Japans, South Korea should combine fores and setup more naval ships around CHINA.This way it will be easy to get in China if they try to do something.
The number one and the most important thing US should do is start moving all the manufacturing from CHINA to Mexico if we want cheap labor and products made. This way their economy will slow down and with this they won’t have US currency to buy weapons from Russia of else where. With downgrading china’s economy they will spend less on military just as what US is going through during this hard economic times.
US should find someplace else for manufacturing because CHINA has already grown enough and it’s time for someone else to grow instead.